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Good morning all,

I'm hoping someone can help me identify these marks, so far in searching for sword stamps all I come up with is dutch:

 

Maybe one of these?
http://www.silvercollection.it/germansilverhallmarks4.html

 

Possibly Dutch?

 

We need a closer view of the other 2 marks.

 

I don't have a way to get closer marks, that's all I have to go off of.

 

That's too bad. Wish I could help, Nate!

Neat server!

 

+1 for me

 

Looks like the single sword mark used on Dutch silver from 1906 -1953, this was used on 835 and 925 standard.

 

It is definitely not the Dutch sword mark, which is more detailed.

I agree, it looks like a Hanau mark, possibly J.D. Schleissner & Söhne although this specific one doesn't seem to there.
Maybe @DragonflyWink knows it.

 

Not enough detail. The 1906-1953 sword has a ribbed hilt, a groove down the blade, and a knob at the tip of the blade.

 

Agreed...

~Cheryl

 

The item arrived in the mail yesterday, here's some closer photos of the marks if anyone can help to identify them. I'll get some photos of the dish fully polished soon:

 

Still looks like Hanau pseudo-marks to me, as suggested by INH and AJ, most likely Schleissner & Söhne:

http://www.silvercollection.it/germansilverhallmarks4.html




~Cheryl

 

A thought for you. Look at Simon Rosenau here - http://www.silvercollection.it/HANAUROSENAU2BIS.jpg

I was thinking that one of those marks was a person - but no! It's a goblet with circles on each side. That example doesn't include a sword or the other thing, but maybe there are other examples of his marks that do include them.

 

Here's a better photo:

 

Since the Hanau pseudo-marks were usually imitations of older marks, the same or similar can turn up on pieces by different makers, the reason an attribution is often suggested rather than firm.

All your marks are found in the Schleissner & Söhne images on the 'silvercollection.it' site, so it would most likely be a piece made by them - on this page you can see the sword [s447] and the chalice [s449], their numbers corresponding to their attribution in Scheffler's 1976 book:


https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html




~Cheryl

 

Thank you Cheryl (and bakersgma),

I think I'm leaning towards Schleissner & Söhne; I notice that the sword marks all seem to have the same shape around the edge. I came up empty finding another piece with the same exact three marks all together, but it appears very clear that the maker switched up the marks quite a bit. I polished it last night and hopefully I'll have some space later today in my schedule to take good photos.

 

Here's the photos after polishing, I'm very happy being able to buy this piece considering how it looks now and the nice weight of the piece:

 

Very nice, Nate!

 

You have magic in your fingers @MrNate