Featured 2,500 years old gold torcs, necklaces and bracelet found in UK

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  1. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Beautiful!
     
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  3. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

  4. Aquitaine

    Aquitaine Is What It IS! But NEVER BORED!

    I'm still wiping my chin......my keyboard is ruined:hungover::hungover::hungover::p:p:D:D:D
     
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  5. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    More what, there is half a kilo of 18k gold, how much more do you want ?
     
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  6. KingofThings

    KingofThings 'Illiteracy is a terrible thing to waist' - MHH

    Didn't you recently post one of these or some?
     
  7. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Moderator Moderator

    Yes, stuff is turning up roughly every 3 months.
     
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  8. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    The pair have said they plan to split any proceeds with the farming family which owns the 640 acres of land where the find was made.



    That must be very exciting when they find these old items. Are finds like this allowed to be sold or do the go to a museum? I imagine folks must make some sort of agreement with the landowner before they are allowed on the property.
     
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  9. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    This is (at least) the second thread that mentions "torcs." Does somebody want to explain what they might be?
     
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  10. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    A neck ring.
     
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  11. Bakersgma

    Bakersgma Well-Known Member

    Ah. Thanks, Hollyblue!
     
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  12. terry5732

    terry5732 Well-Known Member

    They become property of the crown. The crown generously allows them to be sold to select museums. Not the free market. The finder then gets a fraction of the sale price. Usually there is a pre-agreement with the land owner that gives them a fraction of the finder's fraction.
     
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  13. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    They become property of the crown. The crown generously allows them to be sold to select museums. Not the free market. The finder then gets a fraction of the sale price. Usually there is a pre-agreement with the land owner that gives them a fraction of the finder's fraction.

    This is actually to mis-state the situation to make it sound worse than it is.
    Britain has the most generous 'treasure trove laws' in Europe, and possibly the world, or that part of it that has such laws.

    If an item is deemed to be subject to the found antiquities laws (the test is that the items are determined to have been hidden rather than simply lost) The finder gets the full open market value of the items, or gets to keep the items if they are deemed not to be all that interesting or valuable, or antiquities. The legal framework awards the landowner half the value.
    The laws are framed unusually sensibly for laws, to encourage the preservation of stuff like this, by removing financial incentives to conceal them. It costs the state a relatively trivial amount, especially compared to many more questionable arts subsidies and encourages compliance with more carrot than stick.
    You still get night-hawks detecting on prohibited sites like sceduled ancient monuments, Davey may have some idea if this activity has decreased in recent years.
     
  14. cxgirl

    cxgirl Well-Known Member

    Thanks af, that seems very generous to both parties.
     
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  15. Joshua Brown

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  16. Ownedbybear

    Ownedbybear Well-Known Member

    Our Antiquity and Treasure Trove laws are, as af says, very generous. That's deliberate: the idea is to encourage finders and detectorists to declare finds, so that the context and archaeology is preserved. Works rather well.
     
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