another UW mark, the seller refers to it as Wong Lee

Discussion in 'Pottery, Glass, and Porcelain' started by sunday silence, Oct 13, 2022.

  1. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    we had a conversation about two months ago re: these asian, modern marks. This one comes with the dishwasher warning and what I guess is a lot of fake crazing. Just another one to add to the knowledge base...


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  2. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is indeed a Wong Lee piece, and the 1895 date stands for the end of the Sino-Japanese war, a century before the company was founded in 1995:
    http://thepotteries.org/fake/WL.htm

    In general, Chinese have a much stronger sense of history than many people in the West.
    There is a difference between fake crazing and a style-related craquelure or crackle.
    Since this item has a recent mark, and you say it comes with a dishwasher warning, it is clear that this craquelure is style-related, and not intended to fake. Besides, even if people believe this was made in 1895, surely they can't believe that such extreme crazing occurs in a little over a century.

    Sunday, don't get me wrong, I think it is good that you warn against fakes. But China probably exports millions of household ceramics a year, and it is impossible to include those in fakes warnings.
     
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  3. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    This was never intended to fake anyone out. It's modern with a modern mark, and sold just for "pretty".
     
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  4. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

  5. kentworld

    kentworld Well-Known Member

    I prefer to call them imitations or reproductions of older pieces for the decorator market. They are fakes when sellers try to sell them as antiques.
     
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  6. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    Yeat I don't disagree with what everyone is saying. Mostly I'm just continuing the idea that I mentioned in the last thread, viz that there was some question about whether these marks were antique, so like I said I happen to see one of these marks the other day so I thought id add it to the discussion
     
  7. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Not a bad idea, if this is one of the searchable threads. Some are and some aren't. If someone's researching a piece they found "in the wild" and knows naught, having it posted as brand new isn't a bad idea.
     
  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    Maybe next time you could include a link to any other thread you are referring to. I for one have no idea which previous thread it was, there are so many.
    My reply would have been the same, but I would know your reference. Did anyone wonder about a Wong Lee item? They are what it says on the label, not antique and not dishwasher proof.;)
     
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  9. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Not for food purposes is a dead giveaway, but some people are just that ignorant/innocent/unattentive. Some Americans think Antique is stuff from the 60s!
     
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    sunday silence Well-Known Member

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  11. sunday silence

    sunday silence Well-Known Member

    apologies for not linking the earlier thread, my bad.
     
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