Featured Authentic Bitossi?

Discussion in 'Art' started by Elle6154, Sep 10, 2025.

  1. mirana

    mirana Well-Known Member

    In the AI summary you posted screenshots of there's little link icons to the right of the "details" that should indicate a source website the information is from. I would love to know what that is because it could be a good reference site. Or it could be AI nonsense...
     
  2. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    I entered the same search term and got this and similar results each time. It seems likely to just be pulling from online listings. Doesn't make it wrong information, of course.

    Examples of Bitossi Bull Form Numbers
    __________________________________________

    I did go back and looked at my emails from 2016 when I originally posted my orange bull. I did email Bitossi asking about it but they never responded. (They had responded when I asked about my lamp a few years earlier but no additional information about my bull from them.)

    There was a link in the discussion to a facebook group that might be a source to check (if they are still active)
    https://www.antiquers.com/threads/italy-orange-bull-mcm-bitossi-walter.12680/#post-180711
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2025
  3. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Walter contributed some helpful comments about Bitossi bulls in THIS thread on an Italian Pottery Marks forum.
    In that thread, he also posted the following photo of a genuine Bitossi bull for comparison and mentioned taking note of the "very deliberate and careful placement of the impressed designs". (The marks on OPs look somewhat messier, IMHO. And note the imprecise placement of the black coloring over the design on the OP bull's back. But... this could just be the difference between newer and older Bitossi bulls?)

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2025
  4. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    interesting thread, walter seemed to suggest that the bulls were only produced in rimini blue, so would be dubious in anything not in that colour.

    think he(walter) had had enough (or passed) by the time someone added this into the mix, but (unusual as it is) believe it to be bitossi as well

    3595_9396e3737712adebcf865aa0fe7bc903_t.jpeg
     
    komokwa likes this.
  5. bluumz

    bluumz Quite Busy

    Walter's statement about color in the forum thread that I linked to is from 2010... perhaps at that time there were only Rimini Blue bulls...?
     
  6. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    very true...........god knows whats out there now of course, but he seemed to suggest the originals (londi) were only produced in blue, so everything else should be viewed with scepticism.

    think if he was to have created one in a different colour it might have been similar to the colour here

    Aldo-Londi.jpg
     
  7. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    always loved this pic

    166-designers_large_btt.jpg
     
    Any Jewelry and bosko69 like this.
  8. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    its the mix of the colour in the colour that makes it !
     
    bosko69 likes this.
  9. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    yep-tiny variations make it sing.
     
    charlie cheswick likes this.
  10. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    he musta been happy with that particular one as it really does :singing:

    wondering if that light tone that shows is actually the colour of the pottery coming through, which gives it even more impact

    touch of yellowy green as well, or yellow that has mixed with the blue to make the green
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2025
  11. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    be interesting to find out how he applied the little decorational parts, as there looks to be something interesting about how they look, especially compared to fake ones anyway
     
  12. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    the decorations (some/most) look applied in long strips as opposed to individually as each area has a look of uniformity that keeps it more rigid (as a design)
     
    bosko69 likes this.
  13. charlie cheswick

    charlie cheswick Well-Known Member

    not ai (but beginning to emulate) :playful:

    could ai do this
     

    Attached Files:

  14. bosko69

    bosko69 Well-Known Member

    The near perfection of some of the stamping runs do give that impression ?
    be nice to find an old film on YouTube of Londi working.
    PS-Would they have used a stamping wheel ? The uniformity is evident (at least IMHO).
    BITT.jpg
     
    charlie cheswick likes this.
  15. say_it_slowly

    say_it_slowly The worst prison is a closed heart

    Not an old film but I've been watching this tour of the Bitossi Museum. Unfortunately is doesn't focus on bulls but the person filming has her own that she shows at the end. She does mention seeing all the different colors the bulls came in but it's only a mention, at the end.

    I tried to pull of few screenshots of the few bulls that I saw.



    from the museum
    upload_2025-9-13_13-7-26.png
    upload_2025-9-13_13-9-11.png
    no bulls but flowers similar to a bull mentioned in earlier post
    upload_2025-9-13_13-10-26.png
    upload_2025-9-13_13-11-35.png




    owned by the narrator
    upload_2025-9-13_13-6-22.png
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2025
    Any Jewelry, mirana, bosko69 and 2 others like this.
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page