Need help on this gold inlaid disk

Discussion in 'Metalware' started by jingyel, Dec 2, 2023.

  1. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member


    I went to an estate sale today and got a free gift from the owner.
    I seems quite lovely and the owner told me something like Toledo Spain??
    I googled but only found a city name.

    Could anyone share some your knowledge about it?

    Thank you!
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  2. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    It's damascene. A technique of inlaying metal. It looks in poor condition. In good condition they can be quite striking. I purchased a similar one last year and am quite fond of it.

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  3. jingyel

    jingyel Well-Known Member

  4. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Toledoware, a less expensive imitation of damascene.

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  5. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    It is real damascene,not Toledoware.
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  6. Chinoiserie

    Chinoiserie Well-Known Member

    Ooooh. Conflict of opinions. How do we tell the difference?
  7. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Looks like a little souvenir footed trinket dish from Toledo to me. In rather poor condition. But I'm willing to be proven wrong.


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  8. Any Jewelry

    Any Jewelry Well-Known Member

    It is, but it is genuine damascene, so gold leaf hammered into blackened steel.
    While it was made in Toledo, the term Toledoware is generally used for cheap die cast brass items made to copy real Toledo damascene.
    Very sad, with so much rust and loss of gold.
    I don't know if it can be restored without more loss of that delicate gold. Maybe the best way is to stabilize the process and enjoy the pretty work that is still left.
    Or maybe @Hollyblue or @the blacksmith can advise jingyel what to do.:)
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  9. Debora

    Debora Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I stand corrected.

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  10. evelyb30

    evelyb30 Well-Known Member

    Definitely damascene. The poor thing was probably used as an ashtray.
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  11. Hollyblue

    Hollyblue Well-Known Member

    There isn't much you can do to fix the surface,the gold pieces are overlaid onto the steel surface which has chiseled lines to hold the gold sheet. It can have a spray coating of clear paint to stop the gold from falling off more. example of a prepared steel sheet with silver.

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